Hi
Any other one ?
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But is there more ?
Since posting about the double album cassette,
I've been witness to yet an other version of the double album track listing.
The source is reliable and has the same number of tracks as the current release.
Pretty much the same order but swaps something in / something out.
I've been witness to yet an other version of the double album track listing.
The source is reliable and has the same number of tracks as the current release.
Pretty much the same order but swaps something in / something out.
3 years later
So three years later we finally get a double album version of Secret Messages.
Its missing one track but is an excellent mix. It seems to include all the interludes.
My vinyl copy has yet to arrived but the HD Flac version is excellent
Side One:
Secret Messages
Loser Gone Wild
Bluebird
Take Me On And On
Side Two:
Stranger
No Way Out
Letter From Spain
Danger Ahead
Side Three:
Four Little Diamonds
Train Of Gold
Endless Lies
Buildings Have Eyes
Rock 'n' Roll Is King
Side Four:
Mandalay
Time After Time
After All
Hello My Old Friend
Its missing one track but is an excellent mix. It seems to include all the interludes.
My vinyl copy has yet to arrived but the HD Flac version is excellent
Side One:
Secret Messages
Loser Gone Wild
Bluebird
Take Me On And On
Side Two:
Stranger
No Way Out
Letter From Spain
Danger Ahead
Side Three:
Four Little Diamonds
Train Of Gold
Endless Lies
Buildings Have Eyes
Rock 'n' Roll Is King
Side Four:
Mandalay
Time After Time
After All
Hello My Old Friend
Sunday, 4 October 2015
or to summarise, one version of ELO Secret Messages could have been
Hi
So one proposed track listing could have been
ELO Secret Messages double LP
Side 1
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On
Side 2
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain,Mandalay
Side 3
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Afterall, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Side 4
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, Rock and Roll is King.
Now go build your MP3 directory.
I think it flows
So one proposed track listing could have been
ELO Secret Messages double LP
Side 1
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On
Side 2
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain,Mandalay
Side 3
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Afterall, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Side 4
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, Rock and Roll is King.
Now go build your MP3 directory.
I think it flows
Interesting find - another version of the double album
hi
please don't ask, you know items appear and disappear,are played to you, you promise ....
The following comes from a cassette, and is a proposed version of the Secret Messages double LP
Side 1
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On
as before but Secret Messages might be what is referenced on Robert Porters jefflynnesongs.com
"Secret Messages (the song) has an early mix with Jeff's vocals less processed and a slightly different intro."
Remember the source is a cassette made over 30 years ago
Side 2
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain,Mandalay
Or perhaps the missing disc 1 of the 4th March 83 SM acetate
Side 3
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Afterall, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Afterall is the 41 second version (or closer to 36)
Hello My Old Friend does have wind noise before it, but its close to 6 seconds
Danger ahead clocks in around 3:30, rather than 3:50, It sounds slightly sped up, but listening to the released version again, that now sounds slightly slowed down, These 50 year old ears are not sure.
And might be what's causing confusion on the acetates previously mentioned.
Side 4
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, Rock and Roll is King.
Some of the songs are linked in the same way as happens on side 1.
please don't ask, you know items appear and disappear,are played to you, you promise ....
The following comes from a cassette, and is a proposed version of the Secret Messages double LP
Side 1
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On
as before but Secret Messages might be what is referenced on Robert Porters jefflynnesongs.com
"Secret Messages (the song) has an early mix with Jeff's vocals less processed and a slightly different intro."
Remember the source is a cassette made over 30 years ago
Side 2
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain,Mandalay
Or perhaps the missing disc 1 of the 4th March 83 SM acetate
Side 3
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Afterall, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Afterall is the 41 second version (or closer to 36)
Hello My Old Friend does have wind noise before it, but its close to 6 seconds
Danger ahead clocks in around 3:30, rather than 3:50, It sounds slightly sped up, but listening to the released version again, that now sounds slightly slowed down, These 50 year old ears are not sure.
And might be what's causing confusion on the acetates previously mentioned.
Side 4
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, Rock and Roll is King.
Some of the songs are linked in the same way as happens on side 1.
Not sure of date - ebay listing for Acetate version
and then on ebay appeared
An unmatched in terms of dates version of the double album
Disc 1 Mastered 11th March 83
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On.
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain, Danger Ahead
Disc 2 Mastered 4th March 83
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, After All, Rock and Roll is King.
It was noted that
Danger Ahead had a different intro on disc 1
Danger Ahead on disc 2 was the standard acetate version
Hello my old friend has a 3 second wind intro
Afterall was the 41 second version
[Mandalay was missing]
Secret Messages came out in (5th ?) June. Less than 3 months after these demo discs were made.
It shows Jeff was still unsure of the track order, but did have an idea of whats songs he wanted.
An unmatched in terms of dates version of the double album
Disc 1 Mastered 11th March 83
Secret Messages, Loser Gone Wild, Bluebird, Take Me On And On.
Stranger, No Way Out, Beatles Forever, Letter From Spain, Danger Ahead
Disc 2 Mastered 4th March 83
Train Of Gold, Danger Ahead, Endless Lies, Hello My Old Friend
Four Little Diamonds, Buildings Have Eyes, Time After Time, After All, Rock and Roll is King.
It was noted that
Danger Ahead had a different intro on disc 1
Danger Ahead on disc 2 was the standard acetate version
Hello my old friend has a 3 second wind intro
Afterall was the 41 second version
[Mandalay was missing]
Secret Messages came out in (5th ?) June. Less than 3 months after these demo discs were made.
It shows Jeff was still unsure of the track order, but did have an idea of whats songs he wanted.
June 2001 - New Secret Messages re-issue
During June of 2001, the ELO remaster campaign was in full flow.
The CD was re-issued with three bonus tracks
12 No Way Out 3:26
13 Endless Lies 3:25
14 After All 2:23
and so we had all the tracks, but not all the correct mixes
The CD was re-issued with three bonus tracks
12 No Way Out 3:26
13 Endless Lies 3:25
14 After All 2:23
and so we had all the tracks, but not all the correct mixes
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